What Aalto patch would be recommended as canonical (i.e. ready to play) for MPE coming from a Linnstrument?
Also, in Aalto, is the Input Protocol setting (MIDI, or MIDI MPE under the gear icon) something that stays globally once set, or is that saved/reloaded on a per-patch basis?
Also, an update of the manual to cover v1.9.4 would be good!
Also, I'm having the "Bend to the moon" issue described in another thread. Is that a bug, or a question of proper setup? If the latter, I would appreciate the secret! Thanks.
Hi and welcome.
I don't know if any patch is a canonical start. Maybe I should make an "MPE default."
The settings in the "gear" menu don't change when you change the patch. They are saved in your project in whatever your host DAW is. These things like MPE pitch bend are meant to reflect things about your controller that would presumably stay the same over use of multiple patches.
I hear you about the manual updates. Meanwhile here's a table of the KEY outputs in the different protocol modes: https://madronalabs.com/topics/4718-key-outputs-by-protocol
Are you on Windows? There is an MPE pitch bend issue there where the menu doesn't work. Please share more info or a link to "bend to the moon" because I'm not finding that.
Hi. Thank you for your reply!
By "bend to the moon" I was referring to specifically (searchable) "The issue: unexpected pitch jump when playing notes after pitch bending." as found here ( https://madronalabs.com/topics/7901-issues-with-pitch-bending-in-mpe-mode?page=1#reply_7965 ). That issue does not seem to have received a final diagnosis in the thread. Because the original sound example is gone, perhaps it is too late (?). My own case may or may not be the same thing. Basically I'm hearing HUGE pitch bend (2 octaves or more) w/o knowing why. This happens even with PB Ranges on the Linnstrument and in Aalto set to low values.
BTW, do you have a Linnstrument there to work/test with?
I've seen the KEY output page you link to. It's a bit obscure to me. I feel like I need to study it a bit more in order to frame a clear question about it.
Yes, I'm on Windows 10. Could you please link to or explain the identified "MPE pitch bend issue there where the menu doesn't work"?
The thread you point to is mainly related to an issue with pitch bend at the start of notes. This got fixed with version 1.9.4.
Sadly I don't have a Linnstrument.
For some hosts on Windows 10 the MPE pitch bend range menu (in the "gear menu") simply does not do anything. So maybe this is what you're running into and the value is set to something small while the Linnstrument is sending out a much bigger range. I'll fix this ASAP. Meanwhile you could try a smaller pitch bend range setting on your Linnstrument.
Ah, host dependent, very interesting. Thank you!
For interest (and/or troubleshooting) these particular observations of mine were using Nanohost ( https://www.tone2.com/nanohost.html ) as the host. It's free, and very convenient for certain uses, so I would recommend downloading it and putting it in the testing mix for Aalto.
I do have other hosts available, and so I will try them when I get a chance and see if I get different results.
P.S. You'd probably love the Linnstrument. Keep an eye on Reverb.com and you might score a deal!
I don't know how they feel with Linnstrument in particular, but the bundle of MPE patches Randy did for the Morph have become my canonical MPE patches for Aalto. (https://madronalabs.com/media/aalto/Aalto+Morph%20patches.zip)
@progster to clarify, if you run into this problem you'll see that after you set the MPE bend range menu it just does not keep the setting.
When I can make time for playing, I try to practice my Soundplane. I know the Linnstrument is a good instrument too. In an ideal world I would have one of every MPE controller for testing!
"if you run into this problem you'll see that after you set the MPE bend range menu it just does not keep the setting. "
Thanks Randy. Yup, I observe that with Nanohost.
I hope it's within Madrona's ability to fix, and not an unfixable feature of the host(s)!
I'm nearly certain this is my own problem.
Is this on the radar for a fix sometime soon?
Now that I've got Live 11, I'm really hoping more than ever to get everything working smoothly!
I have verified the problem on my Windows machine and I'm working on a fix to test with Live 11 and release. Thanks for your patience.
Hi. Anything further you can mention yet?
Nothing yet, sorry.